New? MTA problems

[Lucas Nali de Magalhães]

Hello everyone,

I hope that by writing here someone will be able to help me. Recently I started receiving mail bounces from FreeBSD servers from mails I didn't send. I think the servers changed the behavior and started not just filtering the spam messages but also bouncing them back. It happens the information in the header of those messages are all fake and the actual messages end in the wrong mail box. I hope someone can fix the problem. On my side, everything is up to date and I'd no need to change any configuration recently.

TIA,

[Graham Perrin]

Post by Lucas Nali de Magalhães
Hello everyone,
I hope that by writing here someone will be able to help me. Recently
I started receiving mail bounces from FreeBSD servers from mails I
didn't send. I think the servers changed the behavior and started not
just filtering the spam messages but also bouncing them back. It
happens the information in the header of those messages are all fake
and the actual messages end in the wrong mail box. I hope someone can
fix the problem. On my side, everything is up to date and I'd no need
to change any configuration recently.
TIA,
--

Not yet apparent at
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/date.html>,
solution and we're investigating.

For me, the greater problem is that bookmarked messages are no longer
found. For example:

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-March/078985.html>
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/079708.html>

[Philip Paeps]

Post by Graham Perrin

Post by Lucas Nali de Magalhães
Hello everyone,
I hope that by writing here someone will be able to help me. Recently
I started receiving mail bounces from FreeBSD servers from mails I
didn't send. I think the servers changed the behavior and started not
just filtering the spam messages but also bouncing them back. It
happens the information in the header of those messages are all fake
and the actual messages end in the wrong mail box. I hope someone can
fix the problem. On my side, everything is up to date and I'd no need
to change any configuration recently.
TIA,
--

Not yet apparent at
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/date.html>

Post by Lucas Nali de Magalhães

Post by Graham Perrin
solution and we're investigating.

For me, the greater problem is that bookmarked messages are no longer
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-March/078985.html>
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/079708.html>

Thanks for reporting this. We definitely intend to keep old links to
mailing list archives working. I'll try to figure out why this broke.

Philip [also postmaster@]

[Mark Millard via hackers]

Post by Graham Perrin

Post by Lucas Nali de Magalhães
Hello everyone,
I hope that by writing here someone will be able to help me. Recently I started receiving mail bounces from FreeBSD servers from mails I didn't send. I think the servers changed the behavior and started not just filtering the spam messages but also bouncing them back. It happens the information in the header of those messages are all fake and the actual messages end in the wrong mail box. I hope someone can fix the problem. On my side, everything is up to date and I'd no need to change any configuration recently.
TIA,
--

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-March/078985.html>
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/079708.html>

Thanks for reporting this. We definitely intend to keep old links to mailing list archives working. I'll try to figure out why this broke.

As an example of the known problems: Bapt reported in:

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs/2021-May/101997.html

that:

QUOTE
After analysis, freebsd-bugs mailing list archives have been edited manually
multiple times in the last 18 years, making it impossible to regenerates in a
reliable manner archive with compatible URL.

This happenned too often to be able to be easily fixed.
END QUOTE

It is more than bookmarks that do not find anything. It is also
URL's that now find a different message than it used to. The
above was in response to my reporting an example of such. My
example that I used to report the issue was for freebsd-arm,
not freebsd-bugs. I'm not sure if the "freebsd-bugs" in the
quote was a typo or what.

In my example the numbering had shifted by 2: 020854 -> 020856


===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)

[Baptiste Daroussin]

Post by Mark Millard via hackers

Post by Graham Perrin

Post by Lucas Nali de Magalhães
Hello everyone,
I hope that by writing here someone will be able to help me. Recently I started receiving mail bounces from FreeBSD servers from mails I didn't send. I think the servers changed the behavior and started not just filtering the spam messages but also bouncing them back. It happens the information in the header of those messages are all fake and the actual messages end in the wrong mail box. I hope someone can fix the problem. On my side, everything is up to date and I'd no need to change any configuration recently.
TIA,
--

<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-March/078985.html>
<https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2021-May/079708.html>

Thanks for reporting this. We definitely intend to keep old links to mailing list archives working. I'll try to figure out why this broke.

https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs/2021-May/101997.html
QUOTE
After analysis, freebsd-bugs mailing list archives have been edited manually
multiple times in the last 18 years, making it impossible to regenerates in a
reliable manner archive with compatible URL.
This happenned too often to be able to be easily fixed.
END QUOTE
It is more than bookmarks that do not find anything. It is also
URL's that now find a different message than it used to. The
above was in response to my reporting an example of such. My
example that I used to report the issue was for freebsd-arm,
not freebsd-bugs. I'm not sure if the "freebsd-bugs" in the
quote was a typo or what.
In my example the numbering had shifted by 2: 020854 -> 020856

So to avoid breaking the bookmark, the plan now is to keep a copy as-is of the
pipermail archives, (not the redirection). and have the new archives elsewhere.

The open question now is the new archives should they provide the ancient mail
as well? for now it has been decided yes, to not break threads, but restarting
from scratch would also be a very good option

Bapt

[Graham Perrin]

Post by Baptiste Daroussin

…

So to avoid breaking the bookmark, the plan now is to keep a copy as-is of the
pipermail archives, (not the redirection). and have the new archives elsewhere.
The open question now is the new archives should they provide the ancient mail
as well? for now it has been decided yes, to not break threads, but restarting
from scratch would also be a very good option
Bapt

Thanks folks. If you'd like to shift the discussion:

<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256182>